Thursday, March 15, 2012

Socialism and Socialists

I've been having some strange debates with a socialist friend of mine. He believes that capitalism is a system that benefits the rich and hurts the poor. I started complaining about how Obama is making our country into a socialist country. Everything he does brings us closer to socialism. Obamacare and numerous other entitlement programs. Now, my friend claims that Obama is NOT a socialist but a capitalist that I don't like. He goes on to say that I do not even know what socialism means. I looked it up and socialism is defined as an economic system that has social ownership that controls the means of production. Now, I then begin to ask him to name a socialist country. He doesn't answer the question so I give him several countries that have big social programs and universal healthcare. Greece, Italy and Spain. He tells me that they aren't socialist countries. I'm getting annoyed at this point. I called them socialistic countries. He says they are capitalistic countries. So he leaves the discussion then calling me a narcissistic asshole. That bothers me a little bit so I look into everything I can get my hands on. What do I find? Denmark is considered socialistic because of their healthcare... that's weird. I could have sworn he said their was no such thing as socialistic... And wait! Didn't Obama just pass a healthcare bill as well! Let's not jump to conclusions now. So, then I try to look up socialist countries. Guess what pops up. China, North Korea, Cuba and Russia to name a few. Now, I don't know about you but I believe that those countries have little rights and most everyone is poor as dirt. If I'm getting this right my friend thinks these countries are more free and people are more equal. I wonder why people are trying to get out of them? I wonder why we are the only country that has a fence to keep people out? Surely it can't be because our country is the most free country this world has ever seen? Surely it can't be because it's a land of opportunity? And our poor people can't honestly be more wealthy than the poor in these socialist countries. Couple of thoughts before I end this. First, when you bring up Denmark and Sweden to show how social health-care works you are just digging a hole. Their combined populations don't even reach that of just New York City alone. Of course, it's going to look like it's working. But look at Greece. Same type of entitlements and they are fighting in the streets. It can't sustain itself. Like the once UK prime minister has said. "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." - Margaret Thatcher. Obviously they don't understand their own definitions though. I mean they bring up Denmark and countries like it as having successful socialist programs and yet you can't call them a socialistic country? Another thing, I've been called a racist hateful person because I'm conservative. But when you look at it was the Tea Party hateful or violent? Or was the Occupy Movement hateful and violent? Blacks are telling conservative blacks that they aren't black? That's like me saying that you aren't German because you don't believe what I believe. Who's being racist here? Oh and I obviously don't care about the poor because I don't believe in Social programs. Or maybe it's that I don't believe that they work. Maybe it's because I believe it's the churches responsibility to take care of the community. You volunteer to give money to the church which in turn helps out those that need help in the community. Isn't THAT what Jesus and Paul were trying to get at? It seems to me that liberals and socialist and communist are the ones who aren't tolerant and freak out if you disagree with them. And yet they are the ones preaching equality! That has to be the biggest hypocrisy I've ever seen.